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New OT Proposal

Postby Rids on Thu Mar 04, 2010 7:29 pm

Apparently the recommendation from the Rules Committee is to make teams go for a 2 point convert in OT. I'm not in favor of it completely and think they should've either changed it to a new format or left it. This isn't necessarily going to happen and needs to be voted on.

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Re: New OT Proposal

Postby cossack on Thu Mar 04, 2010 8:52 pm

I like it. Single point converts are a given. Being forced to go for two is definitely more exciting than attempting a routine convert. I think that we'll see a few games decided by the two point convert if this is adopted.
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Re: New OT Proposal

Postby Karrant on Thu Mar 04, 2010 10:00 pm

If there's a problem with the extra point being a boring and routine part of the game the problem doesn't just exist in OT. How can the removal of the extra point in overtime not be a threat to the continued existence of the extra point all together.

Makes me think Action Point.
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Re: New OT Proposal

Postby Rids on Thu Mar 04, 2010 10:14 pm

What I don't like is that it just comes across as a gimmick, much like the NHL 4 on 4 OT does. If it's not good enough for the first 60 minutes of game time then it shouldn't be in the extra time.
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Re: New OT Proposal

Postby Ron on Fri Mar 05, 2010 12:03 am

I like it. It forces teams to not "play it safe" if they get a TD in their first possession. Now they also have to get the conversion to put real pressure on the other club.

As far as gimmicks go ... at one time the forward pass was just some dumb gimmick that the traditionalists thought was stupid to add. Worked out pretty good IMO. :beer:
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Re: New OT Proposal

Postby Dave in Korea on Fri Mar 05, 2010 7:30 am

It does come across as a gimmick tacked onto a gimmick . . . but it is a rather small additional gimmick.

I am disappointed that they're not looking at bringing special teams more completely into the OT format.
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Re: New OT Proposal

Postby cossack on Fri Mar 05, 2010 11:54 am

Ron wrote:I like it. It forces teams to not "play it safe" if they get a TD in their first possession. Now they also have to get the conversion to put real pressure on the other club.

As far as gimmicks go ... at one time the forward pass was just some dumb gimmick that the traditionalists thought was stupid to add. Worked out pretty good IMO. :beer:


So you say that the forward pass was considered a gimmick. Just last week the Argos release all their quarterbacks. What aren't you telling us Ron? :wink:
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Re: New OT Proposal

Postby CFL in Quebec on Fri Mar 05, 2010 5:02 pm

Karrant wrote:If there's a problem with the extra point being a boring and routine part of the game the problem doesn't just exist in OT. How can the removal of the extra point in overtime not be a threat to the continued existence of the extra point all together.

Makes me think Action Point.


Let the guy scoring the TD having to kick the extra point. OT or not !
That would make things interesting !
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Re: New OT Proposal

Postby Rids on Fri Mar 05, 2010 5:52 pm

Ron wrote:As far as gimmicks go ... at one time the forward pass was just some dumb gimmick that the traditionalists thought was stupid to add. Worked out pretty good IMO. :beer:


Yes but those forward passes were a risk since if they hit the ground they were considered a fumble. I can't think of any rule change (outside of ones that leagues went back to traditional rules) of the past 15 years in any pro sport that was just a TV gimmick and that I enjoyed seeing the change made.
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Re: New OT Proposal

Postby iso_55 on Fri Mar 05, 2010 11:30 pm

Rids wrote:What I don't like is that it just comes across as a gimmick, much like the NHL 4 on 4 OT does. If it's not good enough for the first 60 minutes of game time then it shouldn't be in the extra time.

Good comment & I agree 110%.
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Re: New OT Proposal

Postby argolio on Sun Mar 07, 2010 3:04 pm

Is this just for the regular season, or playoffs as well?

In this era where almost everyone wants to see a winner and ties are considered useless, this isn't much of a surprise. Could also make a difference to the end of regulation where teams are down by seven and then score a touchdown. They might be more tempted to decide things right there and go for two instead of risking overtime.
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Re: New OT Proposal

Postby Spellchecker on Wed Mar 10, 2010 1:35 pm

argolio wrote:Is this just for the regular season, or playoffs as well?

In this era where almost everyone wants to see a winner and ties are considered useless, this isn't much of a surprise. Could also make a difference to the end of regulation where teams are down by seven and then score a touchdown. They might be more tempted to decide things right there and go for two instead of risking overtime.


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Re: New OT Proposal

Postby jazzace on Tue Mar 16, 2010 6:32 am

Forcing a two-point convert attempt would be awful — it takes a decent concept (drive the football to score) and perverts it (one 5-yard play each way decides it). I'd rather they eliminate the convert in OT than force a 2-pointer. I'd rather they time-limit the drives than force a 2-pointer. Almost any other idea would be better.
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Re: New OT Proposal

Postby B-17 on Tue Mar 16, 2010 9:36 am

I still think taking the punt and kick return out of OT removes a key part of your special teams. Have the ball placed at the 15, the kicker punts from the goal line, cover team vs kick returner, can they keep them out of field goal range on the return? Right now, if Team A tries for and misses a FG, it is almost automatic that Team B will win with only minimal effort and no risk taking, when all they have to do is kick through the end zone for a single. Having the punt as part of OT means that there are is no automatic field position, it has to be earned. Plus, imagine if Team A blew it on their first possession, missed a FG and it was ran out. A coach might have the guts to even try the onside kick (especially against the wind), keeping one player back with the kicker who is then eligible. If they recover it first, they then force a second round of OT. The only rule would be that the ball has to be put into fair play (can't just fake the punt, or have the kicker try to run for a first down).
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